2016.03.13-20 - Urho Kekkonen National Park, Finland (8 days)
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Trail stats
- Distance
- 86.09 mi
- Elevation gain
- 7,628 ft
- Technical difficulty
- Moderate
- Elevation loss
- 7,628 ft
- Max elevation
- 2,455 ft
- TrailRank
-
81
5
- Min elevation
- 498 ft
- Trail type
- Loop
- Time
- 7 days 7 hours 20 minutes
- Coordinates
- 12965
- Uploaded
- March 21, 2016
- Recorded
- March 2016
near Saariselka, Lappi (Suomi)
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Duration: 8 days
Departure / Arrival: Mountain Center of Kiilopää (333 m)
Highlight: Sokosti Peak (718 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 138 km, +2,300 m
Second largest national park in Finland (2,550 km2), Urho Kaleva Kekkonen Park was established in 1983 in northeastern Lapland, near the border with Russia, in honor of the ex-president of the country Urho Kaleva Kekkonen who regularly went hiking . Its northernmost part consists of a variety of landscapes of swamps, primary forests and rounded hills covered by tundra (in Finnish, tunturit) and culminates in Mount Sokosti (718 m). The park houses a vast network of day chalets, shelters and sites for free camping. The only traces of human occupation are the fences erected by the Sami shepherds, the shelters for the hikers and some bridges on the rivers being the optics of the Finnish administration of parks and forests (Metsähallitus) the one to limit the erosion and to maintain the nature more virgin as possible. The marked wild trails within the national park are accessible through the Saariselkä station, the Kiilopää mountain center, the Koilliskaira visitor center of Tankavaara and the Sompiojärvi lake, as well as the parking areas at Kemihaara and Haukiniva (Nuorttijoki ).
The starting point of this trip is the mountain center of Kiilopää and its itinerary takes place along 7 stages through the refuges of Lankojärvi (via Rautulampi), Sarvioja (via Porttikoski), Muorravaarakka, Hammaskuru, Luirojärvi and Tuiskukuru. The last stage between Tuiskukuru and Kiilopää is made by the shelter of Suomunruoktu.
The 7-stage circuit does not dispense with the essence of Saariselkä, but with an additional day, it can be approached to touch the Russian border (Porttikoski-Snellmaninmaja-Muorravaarakka). In case of need or adverse weather conditions, the route can be shortened three times by the links Lankojärvi-Suomunruoktu (13.5 km), Lankojärvi-Luirojärvi (18 or 26 km), or also Sarvioja-Luirojärvi (14 km), which reduce the circuit to 3, 4, or 5 stages. The detail of each stage and the contacts for each shelter are available below, as well as on the Wikiloc pages mentioned.
1st stage: Kiilopää - Lankojärvi
Duration: 11.5 hours
Departure: Refuge 1 - Lankojärvi varaustupa (198 m)
Arrival: Refuge 2 - Sarvioja varaustupa (284 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 17.8 km; +285 m / -200 m
Difficulty: 4/5
2nd stage: Lankojärvi - Sarvioja
Duration: 11.5 hours
Departure: Refuge 1 - Lankojärvi varaustupa (198 m)
Arrival: Refuge 2 - Sarvioja varaustupa (284 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 21.5 km; +285 m / -200 m
Difficulty: 4/5
3rd stage: Sarvioja - Muorravaarakka
Duration: 8 hours
Departure: Refugio 2 - Sarvioja varaustupa (284 m)
Arrival: Refuge 3 - Muorravaarakka autio-varaustupa (259 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 19.2 km; +90 m / -140 m
Difficulty: 2/5
4th stage: Muorravaarakka - Hammaskuru
Duration: 6 hours
Departure: Refuge 3 - Muorravaarakka autio-varaustupa (259 m)
Arrival: Refuge 4 - Hammaskuru varaus-autiotupa (328 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 13.5 km; +270 m / -175 m
Difficulty: 3/5
5th stage: Hammaskuru - Luirojärvi
Duration: 6:15 hours
Departure: Refuge 4 - Hammaskuru varaus-autiotupa (328 m)
Arrival: Refuge 5 - Luirojärvi autio-varaustupa (286 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 14.6 km; +140 m / -180 m
Difficulty: 3/5 - Opening trace; orientation in the forest.
Ascension: Mount Sokosti from Luirojärvi
Duration: 5:30 hours
Departure / arrival: Refugio 5 - Luirojärvi autio-varaustupa (286 m)
Highlight: Sokosti Peak (718 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 12.3 km; +485 m / -485 m
Difficulty: 3/5 - Great exposure to the wind.
6th stage: Luirojärvi - Tuiskukuru
Duration: 4 hours
Departure: Refuge 5 - Luirojärvi autio-varaustupa (286 m)
Arrival: Refuge 6 - Tuiskukuru autio-varaustupa (290 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 8.8 km; +190 m / -195 m
Difficulty: 2/5
Ascent: Summits 1 and 2 from Tuiskukuru
Duration: 1:50 hours
Departure / arrival: Refugio 6 - Tuiskukuru autio-varaustupa (290 m)
Highlight: Summit 2 (443 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 4.5 km; +210 m / -210 m
Difficulty: 4/5
7th stage: Tuiskukuru - Kiilopää
Duration: 9:15 hours
Departure: Refuge 6 - Tuiskukuru autio-varaustupa (290 m)
Arrival: Mountain Center of Kiilopää (333 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 26.3 km; +430 m / -390 m
Difficulty: 2/5
The mountain center of Kiilopää (links at the end), with a capacity of up to 300 people, is isolated in the heart of one of the best Nordic sites in Lapland, 250 km north of the Arctic Circle and half an hour from the city of Ivalo. It is located in the southern part of the city of Inari, at the foot of the Lappish mountains of Kiilopää and Ahopää at the gates of the Urho Kekkonen National Park, in Finland.
This place is very popular among Finns for its 300 km of cross-country trails, traditional sports in the country, but also for a whole range of Nordic activities for clients such as snowmobile safaris, dog sledding, reindeer, Ice fishing, snowshoe hiking, etc. Supervision (optional) is usually offered in English. The center ensures reservations in the National Park shelters and delivers the keys to the varaustupa (closed shelters), organizes activities and can provide accompaniment. It is also the main information point in the Saariselkä.
IDEA OF BACKPACK:
Back country ski and hiking boots, neoprene boot cover (thermal protection), seal skins, canes with large washer, light crampons (optional), leggings, powerful underwear: tights and merino shirt (2), technical shirts ( 4), good socks that do not make sores (4), thick fleece, lung, primaloft or similar, mountain pants and windproof winter pants, Gore-tex anorak with hood, buff, neoprene mask or passes mountains, hat , gloves and mittens of blizzard, chemical heaters feet and hands (optional), sunglasses, goggles, sunscreen, cocoa, toiletry (mini everything: towel, toothbrush, wipes, etc.), frontal, whistle , first aid kit, survival blanket, lighter and newspaper, canteen with insulating protection, plugs, toilet paper. A plastic cup, plate, fork and spoon (the kitchen material in the shelters is scarce), swimsuit (for saunas). Backpack 50/60 l. Medium sleeping bag, slippers for shelter. Passport / ID, money (the currency in Finland is the euro), federative and secure card, GPS (maps Finland_Topo20k_22_47_1345, 1346, 1347, 1404, 1405, 1406, 1463, 1464, 1465, 1522, 1523, 1524), compass, knife, mobile and charger, camera, batteries and batteries for all devices. Water, attack food for 1 day and 9 people (detail below), nuts, chocolate, nougat, sausage, wine, cookies ...
The backpacks are prepared and the pulkas closed before leaving each morning: 3 pulkas for 9 people in our case, that is: 3 teams of 3 people, with the heavy material and the breakfasts and dinners in daily packages for 8 days, plus the food "attack" for lunches (about 800 to 1000 g of protein: sausages, cheese, 1 kg of bread, chocolate, nougat and nuts for 9 people).
COMMUNITY (1 pulka every 2-3 people):
Mountain shovel (one for two), lunch (dinners, breakfast and attack meals less the day, to distribute among backpacks; Avecrem, Isostar, tea / coffee / soluble chocolate), transmitters (2), some candle and lighter / matches, maps paper, some wax and paraffin, sealskin and spare cane, spare gloves, spare sunglasses, first aid kit, some rope or cord (10 m), tail spray of skins.
ATTACK FOOD (for 1 day for 9 people):
800 sausages / smoked salmon, cheese, packaged tortilla, nuts, energy bars, cereal bread (1 kg), nougat, chocolate.
SHELTERS:
In the shelters we will find firewood, stove, gas stove and cooking material although very fair. No blankets!
The firewood must be replaced (cut) before leaving.
The toilet is outside, sometimes a little far. There is no toilet paper!
There is no light with which each one must calculate their batteries for telephones, GPS, camera, etc.
Telephone coverage sometimes ...
Between refuge and refuge there is usually a cabin or shelter to stand.
AIRPLANE:
Billed backpacks, they have just done 20/23 kg with community food.
In the cabin, what the company tolerates.
The skis grouped into two-three cases.
The pulkas if you have (otherwise rent at destination) full of junk or food up to 23 kg.
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Mountain Center of Kiilopää
Kiilopääntie, 620
FI-99830 Saariselkä - FINLAND
Tel: +358.16.670.0700
Mail: kiilopaa@suomenlatu.fi
Connections by plane, train and bus
Sauna and swim in ice water in Lapland
.
Departure / Arrival: Mountain Center of Kiilopää (333 m)
Highlight: Sokosti Peak (718 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 138 km, +2,300 m
Second largest national park in Finland (2,550 km2), Urho Kaleva Kekkonen Park was established in 1983 in northeastern Lapland, near the border with Russia, in honor of the ex-president of the country Urho Kaleva Kekkonen who regularly went hiking . Its northernmost part consists of a variety of landscapes of swamps, primary forests and rounded hills covered by tundra (in Finnish, tunturit) and culminates in Mount Sokosti (718 m). The park houses a vast network of day chalets, shelters and sites for free camping. The only traces of human occupation are the fences erected by the Sami shepherds, the shelters for the hikers and some bridges on the rivers being the optics of the Finnish administration of parks and forests (Metsähallitus) the one to limit the erosion and to maintain the nature more virgin as possible. The marked wild trails within the national park are accessible through the Saariselkä station, the Kiilopää mountain center, the Koilliskaira visitor center of Tankavaara and the Sompiojärvi lake, as well as the parking areas at Kemihaara and Haukiniva (Nuorttijoki ).
The starting point of this trip is the mountain center of Kiilopää and its itinerary takes place along 7 stages through the refuges of Lankojärvi (via Rautulampi), Sarvioja (via Porttikoski), Muorravaarakka, Hammaskuru, Luirojärvi and Tuiskukuru. The last stage between Tuiskukuru and Kiilopää is made by the shelter of Suomunruoktu.
The 7-stage circuit does not dispense with the essence of Saariselkä, but with an additional day, it can be approached to touch the Russian border (Porttikoski-Snellmaninmaja-Muorravaarakka). In case of need or adverse weather conditions, the route can be shortened three times by the links Lankojärvi-Suomunruoktu (13.5 km), Lankojärvi-Luirojärvi (18 or 26 km), or also Sarvioja-Luirojärvi (14 km), which reduce the circuit to 3, 4, or 5 stages. The detail of each stage and the contacts for each shelter are available below, as well as on the Wikiloc pages mentioned.
1st stage: Kiilopää - Lankojärvi
Duration: 11.5 hours
Departure: Refuge 1 - Lankojärvi varaustupa (198 m)
Arrival: Refuge 2 - Sarvioja varaustupa (284 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 17.8 km; +285 m / -200 m
Difficulty: 4/5
2nd stage: Lankojärvi - Sarvioja
Duration: 11.5 hours
Departure: Refuge 1 - Lankojärvi varaustupa (198 m)
Arrival: Refuge 2 - Sarvioja varaustupa (284 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 21.5 km; +285 m / -200 m
Difficulty: 4/5
3rd stage: Sarvioja - Muorravaarakka
Duration: 8 hours
Departure: Refugio 2 - Sarvioja varaustupa (284 m)
Arrival: Refuge 3 - Muorravaarakka autio-varaustupa (259 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 19.2 km; +90 m / -140 m
Difficulty: 2/5
4th stage: Muorravaarakka - Hammaskuru
Duration: 6 hours
Departure: Refuge 3 - Muorravaarakka autio-varaustupa (259 m)
Arrival: Refuge 4 - Hammaskuru varaus-autiotupa (328 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 13.5 km; +270 m / -175 m
Difficulty: 3/5
5th stage: Hammaskuru - Luirojärvi
Duration: 6:15 hours
Departure: Refuge 4 - Hammaskuru varaus-autiotupa (328 m)
Arrival: Refuge 5 - Luirojärvi autio-varaustupa (286 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 14.6 km; +140 m / -180 m
Difficulty: 3/5 - Opening trace; orientation in the forest.
Ascension: Mount Sokosti from Luirojärvi
Duration: 5:30 hours
Departure / arrival: Refugio 5 - Luirojärvi autio-varaustupa (286 m)
Highlight: Sokosti Peak (718 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 12.3 km; +485 m / -485 m
Difficulty: 3/5 - Great exposure to the wind.
6th stage: Luirojärvi - Tuiskukuru
Duration: 4 hours
Departure: Refuge 5 - Luirojärvi autio-varaustupa (286 m)
Arrival: Refuge 6 - Tuiskukuru autio-varaustupa (290 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 8.8 km; +190 m / -195 m
Difficulty: 2/5
Ascent: Summits 1 and 2 from Tuiskukuru
Duration: 1:50 hours
Departure / arrival: Refugio 6 - Tuiskukuru autio-varaustupa (290 m)
Highlight: Summit 2 (443 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 4.5 km; +210 m / -210 m
Difficulty: 4/5
7th stage: Tuiskukuru - Kiilopää
Duration: 9:15 hours
Departure: Refuge 6 - Tuiskukuru autio-varaustupa (290 m)
Arrival: Mountain Center of Kiilopää (333 m)
Distances and cumulated altitude: 26.3 km; +430 m / -390 m
Difficulty: 2/5
The mountain center of Kiilopää (links at the end), with a capacity of up to 300 people, is isolated in the heart of one of the best Nordic sites in Lapland, 250 km north of the Arctic Circle and half an hour from the city of Ivalo. It is located in the southern part of the city of Inari, at the foot of the Lappish mountains of Kiilopää and Ahopää at the gates of the Urho Kekkonen National Park, in Finland.
This place is very popular among Finns for its 300 km of cross-country trails, traditional sports in the country, but also for a whole range of Nordic activities for clients such as snowmobile safaris, dog sledding, reindeer, Ice fishing, snowshoe hiking, etc. Supervision (optional) is usually offered in English. The center ensures reservations in the National Park shelters and delivers the keys to the varaustupa (closed shelters), organizes activities and can provide accompaniment. It is also the main information point in the Saariselkä.
IDEA OF BACKPACK:
Back country ski and hiking boots, neoprene boot cover (thermal protection), seal skins, canes with large washer, light crampons (optional), leggings, powerful underwear: tights and merino shirt (2), technical shirts ( 4), good socks that do not make sores (4), thick fleece, lung, primaloft or similar, mountain pants and windproof winter pants, Gore-tex anorak with hood, buff, neoprene mask or passes mountains, hat , gloves and mittens of blizzard, chemical heaters feet and hands (optional), sunglasses, goggles, sunscreen, cocoa, toiletry (mini everything: towel, toothbrush, wipes, etc.), frontal, whistle , first aid kit, survival blanket, lighter and newspaper, canteen with insulating protection, plugs, toilet paper. A plastic cup, plate, fork and spoon (the kitchen material in the shelters is scarce), swimsuit (for saunas). Backpack 50/60 l. Medium sleeping bag, slippers for shelter. Passport / ID, money (the currency in Finland is the euro), federative and secure card, GPS (maps Finland_Topo20k_22_47_1345, 1346, 1347, 1404, 1405, 1406, 1463, 1464, 1465, 1522, 1523, 1524), compass, knife, mobile and charger, camera, batteries and batteries for all devices. Water, attack food for 1 day and 9 people (detail below), nuts, chocolate, nougat, sausage, wine, cookies ...
The backpacks are prepared and the pulkas closed before leaving each morning: 3 pulkas for 9 people in our case, that is: 3 teams of 3 people, with the heavy material and the breakfasts and dinners in daily packages for 8 days, plus the food "attack" for lunches (about 800 to 1000 g of protein: sausages, cheese, 1 kg of bread, chocolate, nougat and nuts for 9 people).
COMMUNITY (1 pulka every 2-3 people):
Mountain shovel (one for two), lunch (dinners, breakfast and attack meals less the day, to distribute among backpacks; Avecrem, Isostar, tea / coffee / soluble chocolate), transmitters (2), some candle and lighter / matches, maps paper, some wax and paraffin, sealskin and spare cane, spare gloves, spare sunglasses, first aid kit, some rope or cord (10 m), tail spray of skins.
ATTACK FOOD (for 1 day for 9 people):
800 sausages / smoked salmon, cheese, packaged tortilla, nuts, energy bars, cereal bread (1 kg), nougat, chocolate.
SHELTERS:
In the shelters we will find firewood, stove, gas stove and cooking material although very fair. No blankets!
The firewood must be replaced (cut) before leaving.
The toilet is outside, sometimes a little far. There is no toilet paper!
There is no light with which each one must calculate their batteries for telephones, GPS, camera, etc.
Telephone coverage sometimes ...
Between refuge and refuge there is usually a cabin or shelter to stand.
AIRPLANE:
Billed backpacks, they have just done 20/23 kg with community food.
In the cabin, what the company tolerates.
The skis grouped into two-three cases.
The pulkas if you have (otherwise rent at destination) full of junk or food up to 23 kg.
- - - - - - - - - -
Mountain Center of Kiilopää
Kiilopääntie, 620
FI-99830 Saariselkä - FINLAND
Tel: +358.16.670.0700
Mail: kiilopaa@suomenlatu.fi
Connections by plane, train and bus
Sauna and swim in ice water in Lapland
.
Waypoints
Waypoint
2,399 ft
Antena (705 m)
Waypoint
1,092 ft
Cabaña (333 m)
Mountain hut
1,162 ft
Cabaña Rautulampi päivätupa (355 m)
Waypoint
570 ft
Cabaña de leña (174 m)
Bridge
793 ft
Cabaña de leña y puente (242 m)
Mountain hut
1,028 ft
Cabañas - Sudenpesä varaustupa (314 m)
Intersection
504 ft
Cambio de valle derecha (154 m)
Summit
1,666 ft
Cima (503 m)
Summit
1,486 ft
Cima 1 (436 m)
Summit
1,525 ft
Cima 2 (443 m)
Mountain pass
Car park
Waypoint
1,085 ft
Kärppäpää (cabaña de leña - 331 m)
Lake
926 ft
Lago Luirojärvi (282 m)
Waypoint
1,467 ft
Pistas de esquí de fondo (445 m)
Bridge
891 ft
Puente (289 m)
Wilderness hut
931 ft
Rajankämppä autiotupa (284 m)
Mountain hut
656 ft
Refugio 1. Lankojärvi varaustupa (198 m)
Mountain hut
931 ft
Refugio 2. Sarvioja autio-varaustupa (284 m)
Mountain hut
848 ft
Refugio 3. Muorravaarakka autio-varaustupa (259 m)
Mountain hut
1,092 ft
Refugio 4. Hammaskuru varaus-autiotupa (328 m)
Mountain hut
938 ft
Refugio 5. Luirojärvi autio-varaustupa (286 m)
Mountain hut
926 ft
Refugio 6. Tuiskukuru autio-varaustupa (290 m)
Wilderness hut
564 ft
Refugio Porttikoski autiotupa (172 m)
Mountain hut
944 ft
Refugio Suomunruoktu autio-varaustupa (290 m)
River
608 ft
Río (186 m)
Summit
2,442 ft
Sokosti (718 m)
Lake
1,245 ft
Lago Rautulampi (348 m)
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Hola Quivitok,
Finlandia ofrece unos paisajes magníficos; como todos los países nórdicos en general. Esta ruta que hicimos en Urho Kekkonen no es muy técnica: se esquía bien y da tiempo para disfrutar de la naturaleza y la soledad del entorno. Esa misma soledad y aislamiento que por otra parte, requieren un mínimo de preparación y precaución. Pero si te gusta la sensación de libertad y los grandes espacios, te encantará! Ningún permiso para hacerla: basta con reservar los refugios en el centro de Kiilopää o ni eso según cuántos compañeros sois. Nosotros eramos 9 si recuerdo bien, lo cual, no podíamos arriesgarnos a que estén llenos; si sois pocos en cambio podéis pernoctar en la parte libre y gratuita de los refugios (autiostupa). Ya me dirás si os animáis!
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Quivitok te ha enviado un mensaje en Wikiloc:
"Hola, estaba buscando rutas por Finlandia, y he visto que tienes una colgada en la pagina, que me parece muy bonita, la de Urho Kekkonen de 8 días.. y quería preguntarte, que tal es ? merece la pena..? en las fotos me parece espectacular..
harria que reservar que los refugios o pedir permiso para hacerla?"
Muchas gracias Compañero!! la verdad que tiene una pinta espectacular te iré contando como va el plan!!
un saludo!!
Será con mucho placer, a disfrutar!
Salut i muntanya!
Hola Quivitok,
Sin lugar a duda el segundo día para nosotros fue el más complicado. Aunque tiene mucho que ver con las condiciones de nieve con las que nos encontramos aquel día: mucha cantidad y muy transformada, sobretodo a cotas bajas. El recorrido en sí no tiene mayor complicación: el lago Lankojärvi al principio nos supuso un problemilla ya que la zona del refugio es pantanosa y unas islitas de vegetación dificultan saber si sigues encima o si pisas tierra firme; luego bajas el río Suomujoki en dirección del NE y a unos 9,5 km en un cambio de valle, te adentras al bosque para remontar el único río -el Sotavaaranoja- que te viene por la derecha. NADA está indicado: ni pancartas, ni marcas en los árboles. En verano sigues un caminito que hay en la orilla del río pero en invierno, para pasar el collado sin toparte con el fuerte desnivel que hay al final del valle tendrás que desviarte por la izquierda (orilla derecha) y ascender progresivamente (piensa que llevarás pulka), sin ninguna indicación. Sí o sí tendrás que tirar de GPS todo el día, sin contar que la visibilidad en el collada puede ser muy mediocre; ni con indicaciones me la jugaría. El otro punto delicado es el último km hasta el collado, en terreno irregular (altibajos). Pero todo se hace... Tarde o temprano, siempre se llega!
Salut i muntanya!
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Quivitok te ha enviado un mensaje en Wikiloc
"Hola Capitán !! estoy viendo los itinerarios y te quería preguntar por el del segundo día, parece el mas complejo, y he visto que pasa por algún lago y bastante bosque.., a parte de llevar el gps .., por supuesto.., que tal está señalizado para llegar a los refugios, o tengo que tirar de gps todo el tiempo?"
Hola de nuevo Quivitok,
En mi opinión los Openstreet maps no son suficientes; quiero decir, la precisión la tienen, de hecho si te fijas en el track que colgué en Wikiloc aparecen claramente refugios, ríos e incluso caminos sobretodo cuando el track ha sido integrado a la base de datos de Google Earth como en este caso, pero si te fijas a menudo aparecen los caminos de verano, no los de invierno. Esto hace que si sigues un Openstreet map puedes llegar a dar mucha vuelta en lugar de cruzar un lago si está helado, o meterte en un berenjenal si te topas con un fuerte pendiente totalmente accesible en verano.
Aparte de eso y si no quieres gastarte mucho dinero, si sólo te limitas a seguir un track fiable los Openstreet maps pueden ser suficientes. También, te recomiendo la aplicación MAPS.ME con la que podrás descargar gratuitamente cualquier mapa del mundo y trabajar fuera de cobertura telefónica con el teléfono móvil.
El tema mapas es muy subjetivo según el interés que les tengas. En mi caso, opté por comprarlos (Finland_Topo20k_22_47_1345, 1346, 1347, 1404, 1405, 1406, 1463, 1464, 1465, 1522, 1523, 1524).
Ánimo!
Salut i Muntanya!
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Quivitok te ha enviado un mensaje en Wikiloc:
"Disculpa que te pregunte tanto.. estoy estudiando la ruta a tope.. y al no conocer ese terreno me surgen dudas.., me recomiendas alguna cartografía para el GPS de esa zona ? yo estoy usando la de openstreet maps con curvas de nivel etc .., la de garmin vale una pasta.. y si puedo evitarlo..., ya sabes.. jejeje
Mil gracias por la ayuda !!!"
Hola Quivitok,
Tienes razón, la última etapa entre Tuiskukuru y Kiilopää es una buena tirada (unos 26 km). Por aquello, nosotros optamos por llegar al refugio intermedio de Suomunruoktu cuanto antes, al ser posible antes de las 11h de la mañana, para desde allí, según nuestras fuerzas, seguir adelante o quedarnos una noche. Sin menospreciar la distancia, subrayar el poco desnivel de esta etapa (menos de 450 m positivos) y el hecho de que las pulkas irán vacías. Queda lejos el valle del Rautuoja, en la primera etapa hasta Lankojärvi (casi 22 km, déu n'hi do), con los 70 kg a cuesta!
Tema ARVA no me lo llevaría; bastante peso y cacharros llevaréis. Ni el Sokosti -vaya- lo justifica, a no ser que os dediquéis a algo más de escalar, cosa que dudo, por fuerzas y por falta de tiempo (la noche llega rápido a esa latitud). Nada expuesto pues, en teoría.
¿Para cuándo la salida?
Salut i muntanya!
Berti
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Quivitok te ha enviado un mensaje en Wikiloc:
"Hola Berti !! conozco la aplicación de maps .me, va muy bien.. pensaba llevarla en el movil..., y en un principio utilizaré el track que colgaste en wiki, salvo que me recomiendes hacer algún cambio o mejora.., el ultimo día es una buena tirada.., y he pensado en hacerlo en dos días por si hace mal tiempo.. o nieva mucho.., y la verdad que no tenemos prisa.. y podemos quedarnos algún día mas disfrutando de aquello.., y una cosilla mas, recomiendas llevar arva ? hay algún sitio expuesto?
GRACIAS POR TODO !! SALUT I MUNTANYA ¡¡"
Hola Quivitok,
Si no hacéis pico entonces, descartada totalmente la necesidad del ARVA. Kiiloppää estará avisada de vuestra estancia y ya verás que algún día os iréis cruzando con guías del parque: como si no vigilan, se pasan antes por los refugios para asegurar su estado y controlan vuestra vestimenta cuando os encuentran. Por cierto, aún durmiendo en la parte libre de los refugios os aconsejo avisar antes de vuestra salida.
El hecho que cada uno lleve pulka es una opción; más cara si las queréis alquilar, pero lleva ventajas e inconvenientes: ayuda a repartir el peso, no carga la espalda como lo harían unas mochilas, pero va bien a veces que unos estén libres de movimiento para pequeños detalles, para ayudar a los pulkeros durante las subidas, o en caso de enganches. Es una opción válida.
Esto ya está en marcha!
Un saludo,
Salut i muntanya!
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Quivitok te ha enviado un mensaje en Wikiloc:
Saldremos en semana santa.., y he pensado no hacer la cumbre del día 6 y seguir camino.., las pulkas serán 3 para tres y bien repartido, en un principio y de esta forma no deberían pesar mas de 35/40 kg como mucho.., que opinas tu?
Hola Quivitok,
Ostras, ya estáis de vuelta? Me alegro mucho lleerte y saber que disfrutasteis. Qué tal la nieve este año, nosotros esta vez no hicimos nada en el norte. Visteis auroras? Y tus dudas sobre la geolocalización, qué cartografía os llevasteis al final? En fin, me hará ilusión si algún día decides compartir vuestra ruta y explicar tus sensaciones!
Gracias por tus palabras, cuídate tú también y ya sabes... Salut i muntanya!
Berti
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Quivitok te ha enviado un mensaje en Wikiloc:
"Hola Berti !! ya estamos de vuelta.. ha sido una pasada , hemos disfrutado mucho de la zona.., grácias por tu ayuda y por todo lo que cuelgas en la página, eres un montañero de los de antes.. de los que pocos quedan .. cuídate !!
Salut i muntanya !!!"
Hi, I'm Diego from Italy. I will stay for 6 days in Ivalo. I'm interest to follow the last two piece of your track. Is it possible to use the huts?? We need to ask someone?? We need to pay the reservation?
Thank you very much
Dear Diego,
The Urho Kekkonen National Park is a magnificent site for cross-country skiing in Finland; sure you will love it!
The mountain center of Kiilopää near the city of Inari, half an hour from Ivalo, supports the reservations in the national park shelters and hands over the keys to the varaustupas, that is, to the reservable (closed) shelters. It is also the main information point in the Saariselkä.
From what I understand, you are interested in staying at Luirojärvi and Tuiskukuru. Both shelters, if I remember correctly, are autio-varaustupas, that is, wilderness and reservable refugees, so you have the possibility of sleeping in the free part of these shelters without asking for authorization from anyone (with the risk of being occupied) or contacting with the center of Kiilopää to reserve a bed in the reservable part. For a map of varaustupa and autio-varaustupa refugees, please, take a look at the following link of the National Park.
In any case, I advise you to confirm this information in Kiilopää and at the same time, to inform of your itinerary and dates of occupation for security reasons during your stay.
I hope you find it useful and do not hesitate to leave a note of your adventures on Wikiloc!
Salut i muntanya!
Hola Bertrand, I am Diego from Italy. I already wrote you an email. Thank you for all the information. The next January we have only few days to spend in the National Park and we would like to walk with snowshoes trough Kiilopaa - Lankojarvi - Suomunruoktu. From Kiilopaa to Lankojarvi and from Suomunruoktu to Kiilopaa we will follow your first and last track, but the question is: can we easily find a trail from Lankojarvi to Suomunruoktu? Thank you very much. Looking forward to your answer.
Hi Diego,
From Kiilopää to Lankojärvi there are about 18 km... A good distance to walk on this ground with snowboots. From Suomunruoktu to Kiilopää there must be about 12 km and I suppose that from Lankojärvi to Suomunruoktu about 15 km (it would have to be calculated). Personally, I have no track that connects the two refuges: when we were, we previously drawn a route on the map, by computer. However, the route between Lankojärvi and Suomunruoktu does not have any complication since you just have to follow the Suomujoki River. Also, if you inform Kiilopää of your stay in the refuges, the park guards usually open a snowmobile route the days before your arrival. If you want, I can help you to create a theoretical track by computer. Just tell me if you’re interested.
Salut i muntanya!
Berti
ok tnx Berti
- can you help me with the theoretical track?
in this video we can see one trail min 07:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXKBfz_NwMU&index=2&list=PLsIaOByZVHkcLD1BFUb_6TXb05ZBIWg7z
- in your opinion, is it possible to follow your wikiloc trail (Kiilopää - Lankojärvi and Suomunruoktu - Kiilopää ) only with the smartphone or we need other kind of devices??
- I would also a paper map
thank you very much for your help
Dear Diego,
Don't worry about the track, I'll take care of it this weekend. The one you see in the video you send seems correct, except for the "peak" halfway through which seems an orientation error. Also, it is possible that the bridge that crosses the Palovanganjoki River was broken and its authors were looking for a pass further upstream..
You can perfectly use a smartphone to follow the tracks with applications like that of Wikiloc but do not forget replacement batteries; remember that in this area you will not be able to recharge batteries and that refuges don't have electricity.
Unfortunately, I have no paper map of the area but you'll find when you'll be at the national park.
We keep in touch for the theoretical track!
Berti
Dear Diego,
I have prepared the theoretical track from Lankojärvi to Suomunruoktu, with waypoints of interest; you will find it in my profile as a new route. Download it and let me know so I can eliminate it.
Regarding your last question about GPS devices, you can also use an application for Smartphones called MAPS.ME (https://maps.me/) that will allow you to download the map of Finland for free and have it on your smartphone to follow the track even without mobile coverage. Do tests before leaving, it can be very useful.
Tell me if the theoretical track is going well.
Regards.
Hi Berti
thank you for the theoretical track, it's perfect!
I have book 2 huts, Lankojärvi and Suomunruoktu.
On sunday 13 we leave from Florence with the car.
I hope I will let you know, thank you ;-)
Hi Diego,
Have a good trip, it will be a pleasure to hear from you!
Salut i muntanya!
Berti
Bonita ruta, bello paisaje mis felicitaciones. Gracias por compartir
Hola Raptor962, gracias por tu valoración. Toda la región es preciosa efectivamente. Para ir y volver.
Un saludo.
Muy buenas Bertigps, somos 2 personas que vamos a hacer esta ruta en breve. Tenemos algunas dudas que creo que nos podrías ayudar a resolver. Podrías contactarnos en el siguiente correo, por favor? huevik@hotmail.com Muchas gracias
Muy buenas kevieneldiablo, será con mucho gusto. Te dejo aquí mi dirección de correo, siéntete libre de hacerme llegar tus preguntas. Un saludo!
bertrandaubel@gmail.com
Buenas! Te escribí un mail desde mi dirección, pero quizás te entró como spam
Hola kevieneldiablo, os acabo de contestar. Un saludo!
Would it be possible to use english??
Hi Mikko! My english is limited but you can try.
How can I help you?
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 04:02 PM, Mateusz Frukacz wrote:
Hi Berti,
Me and my other 6 friends are planning a back-country trip to Urho Kekkonen National Park in January. I found your description at https://www.wikiloc.com/back-country-skiing-trails/2016-03-13-20-urho-kekkonen-national-park-finland-8-days-12640614 very helpful, thank you! We'll have 6 days so we'll be taking a shorter route (we'll go from Sarvioja to Luirojärvi directly).
I have some doubts about the route and it would be great if you could help me out with them:
- The route from Lankojärvi to Sarvioja seems to be the most difficult segment. Do you think it may be a good idea to lenghten the first day and go from Kiilopää (actually Luulampi as we'll be sleeping in tents on the first night) to Porttikoski? Then on the second day we would go to Sarvioja from Porttikoski.
- You wrote "El camino de verano que transcurre recto en el fondo del valle para de repente subir los 130 m hasta el collado no nos hubiera permitido pasar con las pulkas." I guess you mean the summer route that I marked in red in the attachement? Why wasn't it possible? Did you try it? Was it too steep?
- I can't find any GPS winter track from Sarvioja to Luirojärvi - do you have any tips for this segment?
Best wishes,
Mateusz
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 8:07 pm Bertigps wrote:
Hello Mateusz,
I had to re-study the maps! Although I remember this journey very well and reading you brought mi back very good memories.
From what I understand you want to do the route in 5 stages, right?
D1: Luulampi - Porttikoski -> D2: Porttikoski - Sarvioja -> D3: Sarvioja - Luirojärvi -> D4: Luirojärvi - Tuiskukuru -> D5: Tuiskukuru - Kiilopää.
I have an important question regarding the fourth day between Sarvioja and Luirojärvi, we will talk about it later.
1. If I'm not mistaken, starting from Luulampi will make you gain about 3.5 km compared to Kiilopää, more or less 1 hour (attached map). And from Lankojärvi to Porttikoski there are about 5.4 km and it takes a little more than 2 hours. Undoubtedly, extending the first day a bit (1 hour) and spending the night in Porttikoski is perfectly possible.
2. Regarding your second question, I am referring to the summer route that you marked in red in your file. We didn't try it. But if you look at the last section of the route, the slope is very steep (150 m difference level between the river and the pass for about 1.5 km). Walking in summer with backpacks is no a problem but with 50 cm virgin snow and 60 kg weight pulkas, we did't try the luck. Not to mention that the forest in this area is dense and does not facilitate progress with pulkas... It is a decision that you have to make.
3. Your last question, on the other hand, is the one that causes me the most doubt... Between Sarvioja and Luirojärvi there is no track! You cannot cross the mountain and the only pass is between Lupukaapää and Pälkkimäpää, which I think cannot be done (some gorges, undoing the path from the day before, distances and impassable terrain). I advise you to consult the Kiilopää mountain center (Tel: 358.16.670.0700 / https://www.kiilopaa.fi) but I am afraid they will confirm this point. Can't you really extend your stay there?
I hope I have been of help and you manage to solve your difficulties. Do not hesitate to give me news.
Please, post your answers on Wikiloc so that these comments serve the community.
Best wishes!
Berti
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 4:46 PM, Mateusz Frukacz wrote:
Hello Berti,
Thanks a lot for your reply and valuable comments. Perhaps it makes no sense to sleep in Sarvioja and go back through the pass the next day, and we could stay the night in tents at Pälkkimäoja shelter instead. Indeed, the most important question is whether it's possible to go between Sarvioja and Luirojärvi in winter or not. I'll contact the Kiilopää mountain center as you advised. When I manage to make a final plan, I'll let you and the community know.
Best regards,
Mateusz
PS Last year we went for a similar trip to Abisko in Sweden. If you went to any other destinations like these we could use your advice for our future plans :)
Hello mateusz,
I don't remember the case of Pälkkimäoja but in Finland there are varaustupas (closed shelters), autiostupas (free refuges) and many autio-varaustupas (closed with a free part); hopefully you will not stay the night in tents. Discuss it with Kiilopää center.
Good luck and don't hesitate to tell us about your expedition!
Salut i muntanya,
Berti